What would I say to a friend or loved one who hatched a crazy scheme to travel 11,000 miles across North America and climb in 36 areas? I guess I might call that person crazy. Stephen Weiss simply said "why not" when his good friend Gina asked him about the plan. That was the birth of TheMostEpicTrip. You might ask why. Gina says it's to "Dream big and live bigger." The goal of the trip is to inspire people to live extraordinarily and to support
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TheMostEpicTrip is now in the fourth month of their sixth (maybe seven) month journey across North America, and most recently they visited the NorthEast. I was lucky enough to spend a little bit of time with them as they passed through. We climbed and shared some really great moments together and they were gracious enough to answer some of my most burning questions.
**One caveat here is that these questions have been asked in the middle of their trip, so they asked me to let you folks know that their opinions could change once the trip is done...but they might not.First off, let me welcome you to Boston.Gina: Thanks again for having us, letting us meet your family and having us over for dinner & climbing of course. It was a great stop for the trip!
So guys, How did you come up with the idea for TheMostEpicTrip?Gina: My friend, Jennalyn, who is a wife and a mother to two young kids (2 and 4 at the time) is the one who inspired me. I was in Joshua Tree at the end of October last year when I happened to run into her. I had no idea she was there or what she was doing. While climbing together, I discovered that she and her husband had sold their things, including a house, and were planning on moving from climbing area to climbing area until they were broke, then settling down just until they could earn enough money to do it again. The kids seemed well adjusted and they both were loving life from a tent. I figured if a mom of two could do it, why not a single girl? Soon after Steve and I were talking and I mentioned Jennalyn and how I wished I could do something similar. He said, "Why not?" It grew rapidly from there. I think within an hour, we had pretty much settled that it was a done deal.
Steve: Wish it came from me. It was one of Gina's schemes to do something cool. Like Gina just said, She met a couple while climbing in Moab who lived out of a van with 2 kids. Crazy, right?! It sounded pretty "out there" to do with 2 kids but I give them props for doing it. Gina said it would be cool to do something similar, and I said "well let's do it then". I think Gina was shocked that I reacted like that because she DEFINITELY did not believe me. I just had moved to Utah from Ohio about 5 months before, so at that point, doing something exactly opposite of what my parents would like me to do was a comfortable feeling. (For the record my parents support everything I do. Just sometimes would rather have me choose a different path. Love is still there though!) That was December when Gina had mentioned the idea, we left in July, and now are 3 months in. Time flies!
So When did you get started in climbing?Gina: The year I moved to Utah. I took a class at school because I didn't know anyone and I was from Florida, so I hadn't really seen anyone climbing except in movies. Because of the class, I met a lot of great climbing buddies who kept me going after the semester was over. We'd go climbing after class and take weekend climbing trips to Southern Utah. I realized I really enjoyed the climbing community and environment, so it stuck with me.
Steve: It was junior year of college and I had a buddy known as "Phil" who is in the army. The army trained him in knots, rappelling, and rescue. Because of this, he always wanted to go rappelling. I decided on a random Saturday, where I normally went drinking my night away like a typical college student, instead to go with him. I have always been interested in anything that could get my adrenaline going. After a day of rappelling I asked him to set up a top rope system to climb on. He had the knowledge to do it, we tried it, and got up maybe 5 feet on a wall in Hocking Hills, Ohio. I type this today and I wonder why THAT got us hooked, but it did. After that, we got the gear and started hitting the gym (Vertical Adventures) in Columbus, Ohio learning all the tricks of the trade from the gym owner. Then later, learned of Red River Gorge, Kentucky; lead some climbs there and the rest is "history".
Outside of Boston, what's the best climbing area you've been to?Gina: I like how you qualified that with "outside of Boston" ;) I would pick Exit 38 near Seattle, with bouldering on Bellingham's beach a close second, just for the experience. Exit 38 was not only absolutely beautiful (hard not to be pretty in the Northwest) but the rock was perfect. Just the right amount of grip and so many different grades that you could go from your first days on the rock to being an experienced climber- all in one place. Plus there are different climbing techniques that need to be used here: balance, strength, technique.
Steve: This truly is a tough question. I loved bouldering in Leavenworth, WA and the sport climbing in Smith Rock, Oregon was challenging, but I would say so far, that my favorite place to climb has to be City of Rocks/Castle Rocks. Our first stop, funny how that works! Many great climbs there on that granite up there in Idaho. Favorite climb would have to be Colossus (5.10c) that contained two roofs with big pumpy moves leaving you exposed on a few of the moves. I am not the best technical climber, so any climbs with big moves are my favorite! Also another favorite climb on the trip was there as well on O-Spire, Sloppy Seconds (5.10a). It's a beautiful, exposed route on a big ole spire. Oh and a great multi-pitch that I have no record or name of. Sorry! It was a 2 pitch 5.8, I believe, that topped out at perfect platform for having lunch on and watching the tops of raptors go by.
I'm sure you've met tons of interesting people including me of course, so who was the most interesting person that you've met on your trip so far?Gina: I think it was Juan in Smith Rock. He was turning 30 on the day we met him and was celebrating by doing 30 lead climbs that day. He (and his crew- which included his girlfriend, a few buddies who were filming and photographing the day's events) woke up at 4:30 that morning and was on the rock by 5:30. We first met him as he was part way through his day and we were just starting ours (10:30 a.m.). He still had so much energy and at that time had already done about 18 climbs, all rated above 5.10 and up to 5.12. We saw him again later when we were both done with the day's climbs. He had successfully finished 30 lead climbs and was still full of energy. We were invited to fish tacos and german chocolate cake back at their campsite later that evening- he was planning an all-nighter to celebrate.
Steve: So besides Andy of course, I loved meeting Nic. Nic is a new climbing guide in Smith Rock. The thing about Nic that I love is that he is a recent high school graduate doing one of the coolest summer jobs ever. I thought it was amazing that he took advantage of his talents and did something really memorable with his life. If I were him, in Ohio, I would have never even thought about doing something like that. I would otherwise, go back to my city job being a garbage man, roadkill pickup, street maintenance, etc. I think its great that a young kid thought outside of the box.
Do you guys have any favorite bouldering areas from the trip so far?Gina: Bellingham Beach. There weren't many challenges other than the tides, but I really enjoyed the scene. It was my first experience with having climbing shoes near water other than the river going through Big Cottonwood canyon. Being by the ocean and bouldering just felt so... simple. No harnesses, no rope, just the pure essence of climbing and the natural elements- sun, surf, and even a little rain. If you're looking for more than just a great experience (maybe some challenging problems), I'd head to Rumney again. The Pound Town is an amazing place with boulders as tall as houses and access that is just as easy as approaching a front door. Just beware of mosquitoes.
Steve: Leavenworth, Washington. Many, many, many options there when it comes to variety of problems, ratings, and the amount of areas. The best part of this area; easy approaches. You can park the car and within a minute be at a boulder...but don't call me a lazy climber.
I know you have been focused primarily on sport climbing so do you have any favorite sport climbing areas from the trip?Gina: Other than Exit 38, I enjoyed Smith Rock after I learned how to stay on the rock there (one of the biggest learning curves we've had). There are so many sport climbs here- I think more than any other area we've visited- which just makes the day so easy as you now everything can be climbed without lugging around trad gear. Plus, every climb I tried tested my abilities. It's dusty and dry, though, so it kinda detracts from the climbing for me. I know that's girly, but I'm a girl.
Steve: Besides City of Rocks/Castle Rocks I really loved Exit 38, BUT I love Red River Gorge more. I started climbing in the Red so it holds a special place in my heart. The Red is an incredible place! Great pumpy routes on badass sandstone cliffs. Some of the most overhanging, toughest routes are located here. Plus, the Red has got Miguel's Pizza Shop. Best pizza after a climb. It can just get really hot & humid when you are there in, say, August.
I know you guys were well prepared for the trip but is there any piece of equipment that you wish you had?Gina: Another crash pad! One is just not enough for a lot of the problems we want to do. Also, steady internet connection so we can keep updated.
Steve: Yeah another crash pad would make things very nice, but we have everything we could possibly need. Well, maybe a dog to keep us company. Not really gear but you know.
When I plan trips I tend to underestimate or overestimate certain things. Is there anything on the trip that you underestimated?Gina: The pressure of learning a new place each time we move. It can be overwhelming to try to find free camping or just camping in general as well as the climbing areas, many of which are remote or little known by locals. We receive lots of tips from people in different areas and we try to follow up with many of them so we can catch the best of different regions, but many of these are near impossible to find without that same local going with you. In fact, sometimes even locals can lead you on a wild goose chase, as happened in Pennsylvania. It's frustrating while in the situation, but sometimes there is a good story that comes along with it. And then again, it's still frustrating.
Steve: How much fun it is to travel this much, the amount of awesome people we would meet, the beautiful (& very different) scenery, how much all canned meat tastes the same (not a good thing), how many younger people are living dream lives or at least summers, and how many innovative ideas are out there to make living in a truck or van better. Oh and probably underestimated how much it would rain.
Overestimated?Gina: The cost of living in a car. I thought it would be much more expensive with gas, camping and fuel, but so far we're doing okay. We have to be very careful about what we spend, but we've gotten into a routine that keeps us pretty near budget, sometimes under. Neither of us have jobs lined up when we get back to "real" life, so it's a relief to know that we're not going to be absolutely broke by the time we get back- nearly, but not absolutely.
Steve: The route we have taken has been interesting throughout this trip. I planned it all in the beginning and we were following it well until we went up to Alaska. Then the "plans" basically went out the window. We are heading in the same direction as plans but we started out with 11,000 miles, 19 states, 2 provinces, 36 climbing areas, 1200 climbing hours; but now is 14,000 miles, 42 states, four provinces, 36 climbing areas and approximately 1,200 climbing hours. So, we added 3,000 miles, 23 states, 2 provinces, and I don't know how many climbing areas now. We will just have to wait and see.
What about technology? I know one of the plans for the trip was to keep all of your fans and followers updated. That seems to be quite the challenge…Gina: I miss technology but only sometimes and mostly just for keeping the site updated. We were planning lots of great things for the site, but didn't count on being so far from internet reception in many of the places we've climbed, so we haven't had the chance to keep up with the site. Hopefully, now that we're on the east coast we'll have more opportunity for that as McD's is everywhere out here.
Steve: I sort of miss being connected to the Internet. Technology in general, not really. The lack of internet makes work rather difficult considering it is blogging and posting video/pictures. I don't really miss technology, even though I thought I would. A refrigerator would be nice but that's it really. Luke warm water can get redundant pretty fast.
Climbing is inherently dangerous, have either of you been seriously hurt?Gina: Not during the trip (hi Mom!), but previous to it, while training for all this climbing, I fractured my shin while climbing in St. George. I kept climbing, not knowing what I had done. But wow. It hurt.
Steve: Not seriously, but too many small injuries to count. Blood blisters, broken finger nails, skin abrasions on my fingertips, blisters on my heels, scraped knees and elbows, and worst of all, torn pants. My feet smell really bad, too, and I can't figure out how to stop the smell.
Gina, are Steve's feet really that bad?Gina: Yes they are
What about dangerous situations?Gina: Every day. Either the hikes are sketchy, the camping is (like camping off the side of the road here in the east with a nuclear power plant 1/2 mile away and trains running through the area on the opposite side of the road. Oh yeah, and redneck pickup trucks racing by all hours of the night. Turns out we were camped right by a local mini-dump site.) or the climbing is rated so differently that the lead becomes challenging and we have to bail (as happened in City of Rocks where many of the ratings are older and therefore harder). We try to stay on the conservative side of climbing. This trip isn't to prove our climbing prowess, it's simply to explore the continent's climbing areas and culture and enjoy the great outdoors.
Steve: Yes, We're climbers. Isn't it an adherent risk? I always love reading those disclaimers on all of the gear.
I do a lot of driving for my job, but I don't think I would ever consider driving across North America like you guys are doing, simply because driving can be pretty stressful at times. What makes the driving easier for you?Gina: GPS. ha ha ha Ummm... I actually like driving. Previous to this trip, I'd driven back and forth over the United States 7 times, many times by myself. I enjoy the time I have to think and see the world rushing by, but slowly enough that I can pick up pieces of what life is like in different regions, which you can't do from a plane. I like getting out and talking to people in different areas and learning about their lives. Maybe that's what keeps it from being stressful. =)
Steve: I enjoy listening to smooth jazz on long drives. That keeps my mind really clear. Kidding. GPS helps and avoiding traffic, which sometimes can be impossible in places like NY, Boston, Chicago, and Seattle. Driving at night is really nice and stress-free. Especially when its 1am with no traffic at all. Finding a place to camp before we get there makes driving stress free as well because otherwise that is on my mind ALL THE TIME.
So guys, when do you plan on finishing up?Gina: Octember.
Steve: When the ski season starts!!!!
As you know, my blog is called theInspiredClimb and the two of you are truly my inspiration (cue the Peter Cetera music). What or who has inspired the two of you?Gina: God. Every day. I wouldn't be doing this if it weren't for the world He created. He really did a good job.
Steve: I never realized how many people inspire me until this trip. No technology gives you lots of thinking time. I have many, but there are two main ones. My dad. Growing up in a poor family, even though he claims everybody was poor back then, he managed to make a pretty badass life for himself being a Lieutenant in the Army during Vietnam, later traveling basically the whole country, being a high up in our countries treasury (haha don't hate), and marrying my mom. My mom. Growing up in a very traditional Italian family, it was frowned upon to leave family even if it is only an hour and a half away. She was a renegade though and moved to Cleveland. She now controls buying operations in a small company, can cook the best spaghetti (no contest), and still manages to parent me 1600 miles away. Also, she married a pretty badass dude. They inspired me to travel and I think accidentally started my adrenaline junkie side. They inspire me everyday to do something great with my life.
Finally, is there anything else that you would like to let the readers know?Gina: We'd love for them to join us on Facebook so they can let us know their favorite climbing areas in the region they live. Each place has special qualities and reasons the locals love it and we enjoy learning those reasons and climbing with people so we can hear their stories and just share the love of climbing. And just our various sites
(See below for links)Steve: We love connecting with people all the time and love inside, local info so please feel free to ever drop opinions on areas.
A huge thank you to Gina and Steve for taking some time out of their trip to answer my questions. I want to wish them well in the rest of their journey. Hopefully I can climb with them again.
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